from time to time I have add my two-cents worth on Titleist irons I have always played Titleist and have now been fitted and ordered the new ap1s point here is tried both the steel and Graf. Shafts.we found even with a slower swing I still hit the steel r flex better than the Graf. As far as height distance .just wanted to pass along we need to be fit as it can regardless of what we read ot think be different always a Titleist guy