Choosing when to go for the green . . .

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By george t

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  1. george t

    george t
    Old Lyme, CT

    Club championship time:

    One of the par 5 holes is relatively short, with a second shot typically in the 210 - 240 range, depending upon how well I draw my tee shot around the corner.  While the green is unprotected short, you don't want to be long, OB lines the left side and jail pinches in from the right side.  Anything but a straight shot means I'll likely be hitting 4 from the same spot.Two years ago, playing in the club championship, my strategy on the hole was to layup, and it served me well, with two birdies and a par for the three rounds.  

    First round this year, I'm 230 out, with the wind at my back.  I know I can get there, even though the lie isn't perfect.  Historically, I hit my hybrids pretty well, but this year, lack of play/practice has me swinging tentatively at times.  I had the hybrid in my hand, but I put it back in the bag and choose to layup.  Foolishly, I don't focus on a target, resulting in a well struck ball that lands underneath a tree that borders the fairway; the tree really shouldn't have been in play.  I punch out, fail to get up and down and I card a 6.  Walking off the green, I can't help but think I should have gone for it.

    The 18th is also a par 5, one I've only reached in two once.  I draw my tee shot into the left rough, ball sitting in a hole that prevents me from making good contact.  I advance the ball, but I'm lying two and I'm 210 yards out.  Wind is in my face, trees right, OB left, water long.  My round has been dying a slow death on the back nine, and I can't afford to bogey another par 5.  I pull my 913H 24*, choose my line and hit the shot that was in my mind's eye.  I missed the birdie (GRRR!), but par is always your friend.

    So two similar situations separated by one thing - committing to the shot.  On the first case, I second guessed my club choice before I even hit the ball and then just went through the motions without truly concentrating on what I needed to do.  The second time though, I knew what I had to do, walked through my routine and made the shot.  I don't know if there is truly a right or wrong decision when it comes to going for it, but the lesson learned is once I've made the choice, I have to complete the process and focus on the target and strike the ball.  

  2. Bomber3

    Bomber3
    Lake St Louis, MO

    Military

    George,

    I couldn't agree more.  Regardless of what we decide to do on a par 5, or any hole for that matter, we need to pick the club, pick the target and commit to the shot 100%.

  3. tdogg21

    tdogg21
    Chambersburg, PA

    It might not be the smartest, but I go for the green just about anytime I can.  I try to be realistic and I don't go for greens I know I don't have a shot that will be successful.  But I'm not afraid to ignore hazards and hit my shot with the confidence I can pull it off.  It might not always work, but at least I have fun trying!

  4. Todd T

    Todd T
    San Diego, CA

    Military

    I'm done going for greens unless there are absolutely no hazards to be dealt with, it's costing me about three strokes a round... I'm channeling my inner Zach Johnson for now on!

  5. Hotsauce

    Hotsauce
    Georgetown MA

    Unless I'm 100% confident I can get home (and avoid trouble) I'll lay up.  My wedge game is pretty strong, so I feel like I can make birdie or par at worst if I leave myself a Vokey.  I've rarely had good results when I've taken a swing without being confident.

  6. Speedy

    Speedy
    East Coast, NH

    All depends on how the day is going..  If i'm feeling hot and playing well (very rare) I'll go for it..  If i'm not feeling it and not having a great day, I'll lay up...

    BUT like you said, once you have the club in your hand, you have to commit a 100% to it. Period.   I have that problem from time to time, not committing to the shot.

    Good topic to bring up.

  7. No'l

    No'l
    Palmdale, CA

    Much more than just the feelings I had before the shot on the days that I got on on two and the days I got my self in trouble were the two of the true honest opinions I can ask my self for that shot. The more honest I am to my self, my decisions gets closer to be correct for my self.
  8. Luke W

    Luke W
    liberty township, OH

    I go for the greens a lot! Played over the weekend and #9 is par 5 with island green. Had about 220 in and dropped a 3 hybrid pin high. Easy two putt for birdie. Conversely #18 is par 5 with water down right off tee and then water left of green and i had 260 in and laid up. wedge to two feet and kick in birdie. So it is all about what you feel confident with in the moment and what you are shooting.

  9. It largely depends on my condition that day and if I am playing well that day. Otherwise, I'm just laying up to a comfortable wedge. Also, I agree on the 100% commitment to the shot. 

  10. Dave N

    Dave N
    Dade City, FL

    In my humble opinion , you can't second guess yourself. I live by the old saying " no guts no glory" it's only a game. So you lay up and then what happens if you miss hit the next shot?  You beat yourself up for not making s fairly simple shot and risk carrying that to the next tee. So you miss hit a risky shot no big deal it was risky, you make that shot you are on cloud nine. I have always gone for it, paid the price sometimes too but I always picked a shot and gone for it. The most successful tour players tend to go for it most of the time unless it is absolutely an unnamable shot. just my observations and $.02 . hit um straight, Dave......



  11. Frank P

    Frank P
    Port St. Lucie, FL

    Military
    In a scramble it's go for it. In stroke play, I have to be 100% sure or I'll lay up. I'm a decent short iron player so I don't worry too much about laying up.
  12. Chris Hatem

    Chris Hatem
    Boston

    Depends on what kind of bail out zones are available and where I am at in my round.  It really is a complex process but it is a simple decision because all you need is one negatively contributing factor to make the lay up decision for you.  Things I think about before going for the green: wind, bail out spots, current position (score-wise) compared to my goal, if I have hit that club yet this round and the result, the lie, and also the percentage success rate.  

  13. Carl T

    Carl T
    Little Rock, AR

    My thoughts are very simple. Regardless of the hazards, wind and other weather factors if I can reach the green with any club in my bag 3 out of 4 times I will go for it. If I cannot reach the green 3 out of 4 times I will consider hitting a club that will leave me a yardage to the pin that is in my comfort zone which is 85 to 110 yards. I feel very comfortable using my pitching or gap wedge for these ranges. The ranges inside 85 to 20 are less comfortable as these ranges require less than a full swing.
  14. Christian W

    Christian W
    Cincinnati, OH

    My strategy is often to never lay up. If I have an opportunity at a shot, I am going to take it.

  15. John L

    John L
    Cumming, GA

    One thing to think about is that if you are in that zone where you can't reach but can get close (assuming no water hazards), you should just knock a three wood or driver off deck near the green because usually you can get a chip or pitch shot closer than a full wedge shot.

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